Saturday, December 19, 2009

Who Are Conservatives ?

Conservatives are people who believe in preserving the constitution and are in favor of small non-intrusive government at all levels. Period.

People that want to push their religious standards or any other standards on other people are not Conservatives. Conservatives don't care what you do as long as it is legal. In some cases we don't even care if it's illegal. For example, victimless crimes - and yes there are.

People who are intolerant of people who are not like them are redneck assholes, not conservatives.

Pretty simple.

If you believe differently, then you have been mislead by the political party and it's media slave who misleads you every step of your life that you vote for over and over. And over.


  1. Speaking of redneck assholes, Alan Grayson (D-Fl, the 'anti-conservative') wants to put a website author in jail for 5 years, for creating a site called 'My Congressman is Nuts', a play on words from his site called A Congressman with Guts.

    Give these guys power, and they all go nuts.

  2. You know what's fascinating Fredd, is that as the Democrats make these Fascist remarks, the liberals believe it is the conservative who wants to limit his freedom or opportunity.

    obama telling people not to listen to Rush. Did Bush ever hint that someone should not listen to the lying liberal media who beat on him for 6 years? Nope, all he ever said was that was the beauty of America, that you could say what you wanted.

    The libs truly are brainwashed. That's the only way to explain it.

    Kutcher and that actress whose name escapes me pledging themselves to obama. wtf? I wouldn't pledge a damn thing to Ronald Reagan or any other person. I would to America though. These libs are truly screwed in the head.

    Mob mentality.

  3. Hello Kid!
    This is the perfect definition of Conservative!
    Merry Christmas to you and yours.

  4. "Conservatives don't care what you do as long as it is legal."
    Hugh? What about abortion?

  5. Ray. Abortion is legal.

    It also has no business in a discussion under the heading of conservative.

    You're thinking religion.

    Conservatives don't care if you're an athiest or evanalist. Your business.

    Nothing to do with "conservative".

    Read what I wrote again. Conservatives agree with that statement. Personal freedom, Liberty, Pursuit of happiness.

    Personally, I believe abortion should be legal - else it would be pushed into the back alleys again.

    If anything is done, it should be local community support work to counsel women to maybe go the adoption route. Plenty of people looking to adopt.

  6. we are also charitable without having to be forced to be.

    good definition....if it doesn't affect my life...i don't care what ya do.

  7. Labcat, yea, we're a lot of good things actually.

    When I see someone like the democrat politicians and state run media hurling insult after accusation, it is obvious to me that it is they who are most anxious to deflect the attention away from their own incompetent ignorant selves.

    I mean, we've all worked with people like this right. Turn up the heat a little and they're pointing at everything around them complaining and insulting.

    Misdirection is the only tool of the incompetent. The Democrats are experts at it.

  8. Conservatives, your con leaders, RayGun, w, Palin, Bachmann, Huckabee, Romney, are all religious nuts (I give RayGun a pass). Are you telling me religious nuts don't tell people what to do? And don't you crazy cons support the religious con leaders by voting for them? Didn't you crazy cons vote for w? Don't you owe the country by voting for w ...

  9. I can see you're too far gone Ray. This may be my last reply to you.

    I already have my Masters in circle-jerking in cyberspace and don't need any more practice. Wouldn't bother wasting the time anyway.

  10. Yes Kid, cons generally live in a delusional world. Lack of regulation, cutting taxes for the rich, trickle down, God, have all been proven false beliefs, which cons cling to.

  11. RayGun - you speak of Republicans, not Conservatives.

    You would benefit greatly if you made the effort to learn the difference.

    Kid - Merry Christmas!

  12. Soloman, Merry Christmas to you sir!

  13. Solo, cons vote for conservatives.

  14. RayGun - I'd love to get into a debate with you about how criminals vote for Democrats and Democrats pander to criminals... and being an ex-liberal (and ex-registered Democrat) I speak from a wealth of experience... but I've more respect for Kid's blog than all that.

    Suffice it to say that Kid is correct - you've chugged too much of someone's kool-aid, and there's little to no hope for you. Your blatant disrespect for Ronald Reagan in your moniker tells me all I need to know.

    I don't wish to play the cyber-circle-jerk with a lost leftist either. If you want to have a rational discussion someday, perhaps we can meet on that level.

    In the mean time - Merry Christmas to you.

  15. Merry Christmas

    In Rome, the Winter Solstice
    was celebrated many years before the birth of Christ. The Romans called their winter holiday Saturnalia, honoring Saturn, the God of Agriculture.

    In northern Europe, many other traditions that we now consider part of Christian worship
    were begun long before the participants had ever heard of Christ

    The pagans of northern Europe celebrated the their own winter solstice, known as Yule. Yule was symbolic of the pagan Sun God, Mithras, being born, and was observed on the shortest day of the year.

    In 350, Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25. There is little doubt that he was trying to make it as painless as possible for pagan Romans (who remained a majority at that time) to convert to Christianity. The new religion
    went down a bit easier, knowing that their feasts would not be taken away from them.

  16. Kid, why do you remind me of Oreilly? You must be a big fan.

  17. Great post, Kid. That's the one thing that I find so amusing about libs, too, they think that everything they want is what should be forced on everyone. By law. It's ridiculous, and yes, fascist. Big government MEANS more government control, more government interference in every aspect of our lives, and mandates on everything from what we should eat to what kind of cars we should drive.

    I, too, am pro choice. I'm not "pro abortion"; it wouldn't be my choice if I found out tomorrow that I was pregnant, but I wouldn't FORCE my choice on anyone. That's what the left does. It decides that religion is bad (well, if it's Christian, anyway), so it sets up all these laws and mandates about what we can and can't say, what we can and can't display, and on and on. It's thought police 101. They claim to be open and tolerant, and they are . . . as long as you agree with them. That's why your example of Bush's reaction to criticism is such a good one. He was a conservative who truly believed in free speech. BO, however, tried to have citizens turn in their neighbors for daring oppose his government takeover (flag the fishy), tried to shut down Fox News (discredit and isolate them, anyway), and is in the process of grabbing control of the NYT (well, they're already propagandizing for him, so nothing will change there), the National Endowment for the Arts, and public radio (with the internet a nice bonus). His reaction to criticism is best summed up by his "diversity czar": there can be no opposition without an opposition media. Open and tolerant, huh?

    And to Ray, some Christians may witness for their faith, but conservatives aren't all Christians (some are Muslim, some atheists, some agnostics, some wiccan, etc. and etc.). Just as some liberals ARE Christians, too. And some of them witness for their faith. Nothing wrong with that at all. What is wrong is telling someone that the mere mention of the word "God" is a problem (were you aware that liberals are behind a music teacher being FIRED for playing an African piece of music that had the word "God" in it?). Personally, I am a Christian, but not big on the church-organized religion thing, so I don't bother with it. But I don't care if you worship nothing at all or a box of rocks. Big difference between that and forcing "religious neutrality" on people, no?

    As you can see from these comments and from an honest assessment of conservatives, we don't really care what you do, think, or say as long as you don't harm us or anyone else or break the law. We do not legislate equality, morality, or ideology. That's the not the role of government as laid out in our Constitution.

  18. And you were thinking of Demi Moore. She "pledged" her "servitude" to BO. Makes me want to vomit. Who pledges servitude to anyone? It's disgusting and gets to the heart of the problem with libs, I think. They latch onto some lying, incompetent, slick talking Chicago thug and everything he says and does is golden.

    I don't know anyone at all who didn't have some criticism of President Bush and one or more (mostly more) of his policies. This blind obedience and fawning servitude to BO is disgusting, but it's not his fault. They're mindless automatons programmed by bilge they glean from propaganda played out in the fringe media. It would be sad if they weren't so self-aggrandizing about it. They're the mindless zombie drones, not us.

  19. Thanks Fuzzy, that's the one.

    You say it best. I'll just add - Who over the age of 5 would pledge themselves to someone they know jack about ? Rhetorical.

    Just goes to prove their Naivety and ignorance is boundless. Maybe they were paid...but I doubt it.

  20. Fuzzy - Re: December 30, 2009 9:52 PM.

    Here is a great short story about Equality written in 1961 (I think) by Kurt Vonnegut. Harrison Begeron

    PS - I'm flattered that you went past page one to catch up on my posts. Don't think anyone did that before ;)

  21. Fuzzy, PS the hypocrisy is unreal.

    The Dems accuse the other side (Bush=Hitler, etc etc) before they actually do it themselves. They know their legions of followers will have Bush=Hitler burned into their little heads, so when obama comes along and he and the dems truly act like hitler, the libs just Nope, we already identified who the Hitler was, the right wing terrorists are just repeating what we rightly concluded already.

    It's the one strategic talent they have, but then like all incompetent people(e.g. middle managers) they become experts at falsely taking credit and laying blame. It's the only thing that keeps them alive.

    If we could only thwart that one talent, we could destroy Liberalism !!! Bwhahahaha

  22. Well Gd Kid, I didn't know cons read literature. Sure doesn't sound like any Vonnegut I have ever read, but apparently it is.

    I have around 19 of his books. By odd coincidence I am finishing up 2 recently released series of short stories, and none even close to the writing style in your example.

    In case you didn't know Vonnegut was an Atheist, and honorary president of the American Humanist Association.

    He also wrote "Man Without a Country", a reference to his disowning the USA, because of w's policies.

    That's great, sounds like you are reading more. Maybe it will catch on with other cons.

  23. Heyas Kid! Yes, I wanted to catch up on your page :D, it's good stuff.

    As to the Vonnegut story, I've posted recently about it:
    When I teach this story, I also teach W. H. Auden's "The Unknown Citizen." It's a good "set" to help college students think a little bit more deeply about the dangers of too much government control.

    Ray, you may want to rethink that stereotype you have of conservatives. We are college professors, doctors, lawyers, small business owners, and a host of other professionals who not only read but understand very well what we read. Remember that old saw about marxism: communists are people who read Marx, anti-communists are people who actually understand them.

    You do yourself no favors by accepting what you are told about conservatives and assuming we are all a bunch of redneck, bible-thumping racists. There's a word for think like that, you know.

  24. er, typos abound there, I was going to write "Marx and Engels" thus the plural pronoun (it should read, without the inclusion of Engels: anti-communists are people who actually understand him).


  25. Fuzzy, Thanks again.

    Well, it seems there may only be 2 degrees of separation between us rather than 6. I missed that post of yours for some reason. I'm sure I was reading you then...Hmm. I'll have to be more careful.

    From your post "When there was peace, he was for peace: when there was war, he went.

    This certainly describes my attitude today. (As an aside, there is a gent who calls me Cincinnatus on another blog we are both familiar with. I assume you're familiar with the story of Cincinnatus. I take it as a great compliment there. I comment under a different ID there. fwiw.)

    I enjoyed the poem, and will have to read W. H. Auden. I read 1984 a long time ago. That along with Lord of the Flies (from those days) has remained with me as very strong True Image of human nature that can be applied at any time..

    it seemed counterintuitive to establish a monolithic government-run health care system and expect it to "care" about people when it makes of them nameless, faceless, and "unknown" citizens.


    Regards Harrison Begeron.. I don't believe for a second that 99.99% of liberals wish to harm anyone in their quest for equality. It is simply that they don't understand that real progress comes from exceptional talent, not the mediocrity that the rush for equality will create.
    It would be easy to conclude such things are the result of the communist agenda at work, from a distance, but I know too many liberals and how they think, and was one myself in fact. So, I know this nonsense comes from naivety and ignorance.

    Isn't it interesting that naivety and ignorance have gained the upper hand ! ..:)? As Spock would say 'Fascinating".

    Regards 'Marx and Engels' - did you mean to comment elsewhere?

  26. Raygun, I'm not sure what sort of interaction you're looking for here.

    But if you want some, you might try:
    -reading Fuzzy's stuff and putting some effort into understanding it. She is a teacher after all.
    -breaking out of the stereotypical 'insult and complain' Modus Operandi of the American Liberal.

    And for what it's worth - your insults to me are like shooting BB's at a freight train - dig?

  27. Kid, you wrote: "It would be easy to conclude such things are the result of the communist agenda at work, from a distance, but I know too many liberals and how they think, and was one myself in fact. So, I know this nonsense comes from naivety and ignorance."

    That's perfectly stated. I, too, am a former liberal, and I admit that I was a bit of an idealist, too, so I know just what you mean and think it really gets to the heart of the problem with their support for this socialist agenda. They mean well, hope for the best, but don't fully grasp the implications of what they think they want nor how far removed their politicians are from wanting or being motivated by the same thing.

    I'll have to pay better attention at other blogs, I usually only read the comments of people I know unless the discussion is "meaty" (as here). Or on my own blog, of course. heh.

  28. Fuzzy, :)

    Yes, the belief system of the liberals simply relies on too many falsehoods.

    For example:
    -most people desire world peace
    -most people are interested in cooperating with the system and being part of the solution
    -government is really interested in the welfare of (fill in the blank)

    Take health care for example. Liberals think the government can say "Hey you, you crazy outta control health care system. DOctors, hospitals and others. You now have to take care of teh American public and do it according to what WE decide to pay you and how WE decide it should be done, and all will be well.
    It never occurs to them that the millions of People involved at the millions of access points will say "F* That" and quit and be replaced with government lackeys, the likes of which you find at the local vehicle emissions testing station. heheh