In the 1970's a study concluded that plants have feelings. Intense feelings. The short gist of the experiment is that a certain person entered a room and ripped out some plants in the presence of other plants. In the case I heard about the subject plants were philodendron hooked up to sensor equipment not unlike polygraph equipment.
Other people could enter the room without a response but when the person who ripped out the other plants entered the room, the other plants would respond as a person in terror would.
So.. Plants have feelings too. If you won't kill an entity because it has eyes, but will kill a plant that can have intense feelings then you've gained nothing.
Secondly, THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH PLANTS ON THE EARTH TO FEED 7 BILLION PEOPLE.
Lastly, if everyone ate plants, the Earth would be seriously devoid of organisms than consume CO2 and put out oxygen in return so that 1) climate change and global warmings would be accelerated even beyond al gores insane lies (if you even believe that shit), and 2) most of you wouldn't have enough oxygen to survive - You'd have to relocate to Mars.
Just sayin...
BEEF! PORK! CHICKEN! tacos, steaks, meatballs, .........BRING IT ON!
ReplyDeleteI'd make a REALLY lousy vegan and it's good to know now that I'm saving the world by NOT being one :-) (cute picture!)
Z, This is the world we've been given to live in. Yes, whe I get a hanker for vegetables I bite a tree and move on. I will say the vegan diet is good for some people and that's fine by me, they just need to mind their own business. I did read where one guy claims to have cured his system-wide cancer by eliminating carbs entirely from his diet going vegan -fwiw.
DeleteI think the caption for that picture is "What... is there something in my teeth?"
That little squirrel is adorable.
DeleteMy mother and father loved both squirrels abd chipmunks –– rabbits too.
Mom used to go out in the early morning after a snowfall to feed them nuts and seeds from theb pockets of her ratty old raccoon coat. Of course she meant it for the birds too.
They all trusted my mother, and came close while she was scattering handsful of food to them. Too bad no one was around to take pictures then! But I can still see her in my mind's eye everytime I think of these things we enjoyed together.
Franco, I have hand fed peanuts to squirrels.
DeleteYou and my mother would have gotten along really well, Kid!
DeleteI’m quite sure that the folks who conducted that 1970 study arrived at their conclusions after stuffing a bushel of mushrooms inside their veins. No doubt the study was funded by the American taxpayer. So, the question is whether plants harbor ill-feelings toward humans who pull their little stems from the ground. We should look into this further, because I’m quite sure that if the plants are pissed at humans, they can’t be too happy with horses and cows, either. Or rabbits. Or blackberry-eating birds.
ReplyDeleteI think you worry too much about whether there are enough plants to feed the world. Don’t forget, some of these people you’re concerned about are cannibals ... and it would seem to me that the fewer the plants on earth, the more there will be of cannibals. Think Zombie Nation, which are mostly democrats. You might consider loading up your arsenal with silver bullets ... just in case.
Regrettable as it may seem, Mustang, ALL forms of life see to musgt sustain themselves by practicing PREDATION of one sort or another.
DeleteMan may not "live by bread alone," but without "bread" Man cannot live at ALL. ;-)
Mustang, well, I'm not so sure about the cows and horses and rabbits after all that is fertilizer. :-) I can see where the blackberries present a problem.
DeleteWe may see the cannibal thing in action after they force all the white farmers out of S. Africa. Silver Bullets. Noted. The silver price is pretty low right now too.
UNPLEASANT HARD TRUTHS:
DeleteBLACKS in Africa don't want to live with whites there anymore than WHITES want to live with BLACKS here.
THE biggest MiISTAKE Caucasians EVER made was to barge uninvited into African countries in order to EXPLOIT their resources.
We'll be paying a huge price for that till Kingdom come.
Agree on Africa. Should have left that place unopened.
DeleteThe problem, of course, was the need for a cheap source of labor.
DeleteAOW, Didn't turn out so cheap eh? :)
DeleteBUMPER STICKER SEEN in the AMERICAN SOUTH:
Delete"If I'd a-known how it was gonna turn out, I woulda picked my OWN damn cotton!"
The Venus Flytrap will settle the score.... just saying.
ReplyDeleteBunk, Yes once the Flytrap's are genetically modified to increase greatly in size.. Can we train them to concentrate on people with long hair and a beard ?
DeleteI don't see why not.. modify away....
DeleteI'm on it Bunk.
DeleteAbour "CHEAP LABOR:"
DeleteThat should be defined as "A NEED based on GREED."
Someday, humanity will have to learn that EXPLOITING others for ANY purpose is UNGODLY. In other words it's a SIN.
Now THERE'S word you don't hear much nowadays, do you? SIN!
Too bad, because SIN cannot be IGNORED out of existence. Sooner ort later SIN is BOUND to get PUNISHED.
GOD doesn't punish sinners, though, SIN, itself, brings about it's OWN tragic results. Committing a SIN is like poisoning the supply of drinking water. The implications of SIN are vast and unending.
I'm sure you get my meaning, don't you?
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ReplyDeleteThis is why commercial agriculture uses anonymous combines and harvesters.
ReplyDeleteThey never see it coming.
Ed, I never tried to combine a harvester with an anonymous. Is that where transgenders come from?
DeleteNo, but it's where they go.
DeleteHeh.
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ReplyDeleteI just DELETED this scurrilous remark from MY blog. I hope you will do the same, Kid.
DeleteThis sort of thing only SPREADS the garbage, amplifies the STENCH, and causes it to PROLIFERATE.
Well equipped to handle it Franco
DeleteFor Your Info, I don't know what possessed you to pollute my blog with you comment about RN, but take it somewhere else. I don't want it here. There are oodles of places on the internet for that shit.
DeleteI don't want "it" ANYWHERE, Kid, but "it" tends to follow me. That means I am STALKED by "it."
DeleteNaturally I don't like it. You wouldn't either if it happened to you. BUT I was wrong to break my own rule about never responding in kind. I'd just had a bellyful of it" elsewhere earlier. I came here for a pleasant change of air, and "it" FOLLOWED me.
These people are truly EVIL, but as the Bible says, we are not supposed to answer evil with more evil. In that I failed miserably. I am sorry.
The more I see of this world as it is today the more tempted I am just to withdraw from the scene and live out my remanong days as a hermit.
I'll be 78 on my next birthday, and frankly I'm glad I probably won't be around much longer. I've already outlived my usefulness. Whatever it is I have to sell no one wants to buy anymore. The pleasant world into which I was born has vanished, most of the people I've truly loved are dead, and all the rules I was taught to live by have been tossed on the scrap heap.
I'm lucky to have made plenty of money, but there's precious little I can do with it for reasons I wpn't bother you with. The world has been largely taken over by barbarians, so what's the point of going on and on?
But YOU still have a lot to offer, and as I said the other day, you are well equipped to carry on the struggle. I'm just worn out, I guess.
I wish you well Franco. I stopped paying attention to litards a good while ago. No profit in reading them or responding to. They're 3 yr olds.
DeleteI can dig the worn out. Yea, I still have a little fun with it though. I like learning and laughing so that's what I concentrate on.
As SilverFiddle said about you years ago, "Kid is a wise man."
DeleteI love to satirize the left – especially in rhyme, Kid. The trouble is THEY take it LITERALLY, and regard it as "proof" that I'm a wicked SOB and a "NAZI."
I've been called The DEVIL INCARNATE by the likes of that fulminating imbecile Dervish Sanders.
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The BIGGEST trouble with Leftists, I{ believe, is their COMPLETE LACK of any discernible sense of HUMOR.
I think I missed that Franco, thanks for mentioning. I mean it quite literally that they are violent, spoiled, fascist 3 yr old brats in adult bodies.
DeleteI comment on right leaning Washington Times articles and get replies all the time from the little brats. I don't read them Franco. Less than a waste of time. Not a single one will have a cognizant argument or debate point. Just insults for me and DJ Trump.
The only replies I read are people I know. If one of them happens to put something here and I'm familiar with the name, I don't even bother reading it. Delete and move on.
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DeleteMs P, you're not welcome here. If you want to stalk Franco, do it on his blog. Tia.
DeleteFranco, You're comment is Way out of bounds. Not even I care to see the C word or G-D in print and I'm quite sure few of my readers care for it either. Please respect my audience. We only do the interesting or funny stuff here. I hope you will keep your conflict with Ms P on your blog.
DeleteI'm sorry, Kid. You were right in what you said about leftists. Every time I make the sad mstake of trying to bridge the gulf between us all it does is inflame their innate viciousness. It sets them off on a campaign of mockery and scorn that's very hard to take. When they brought it here, I saw red and acted badly. Funny! I came back after all these hours to remove my outragoues comment, but you beat me to it. Good for you!
DeleteIf you want to know, I wrote that way hoping to get you to remove "Ms P" I AM constantly stalked by RN, Dervish Sabders, This One, Ducky, and several of their alternate identities who seem obsessed with mocking and denigrating everything I write. I closed my original blog and started another hoping to stop it, but it didn't work.
I have to say I feel justified in everything I said to the lousy SOB, BUT I realize I played right into "her" hands by letting
"her" goad me into it, and I was wrong to lay it in your doorstep. I really am sorry about that, Kid.
I hope you will accept my apologies.
Apology accepted Franco and thank you. I figured as much but someone's gotta keep the peace. :)
DeleteI usually don't get around to looking at the blog until around 6pm EDT. Rest assured comments from lefties do not survive once I see them.
Thanks. Kid.
DeleteWell! I missed all the fire and fury in this comments section.
ReplyDeleteYou're , lucky. It was a disgraceful exhibition all the way 'round.
DeleteI'm an omnivore, and a meal without meat is not a real meal. Just sayin'.
ReplyDeleteI find myself eating less and less red meat, though I was brought up on HUGE amounts of it, for gtwo reasons.
DeleteOne: Red meat ºº especially beef –– just doesn't TASTE very good anymore.
Two: I have had occasion to look more and more into the eyes of fellow mammals in the last few years, and long ago came to the realization I could never SLAUGHTER one. I think huntng for SPORT is barbaric. Once you make the connection between yourself and a fellow a warm-blooded animal, the idea of killing them becomes less and less attractive. I certainly couldn't kill a cat or a dog, and the other animals are not that far removed.
That said, I have no problem whatsoever eating fish and poultry, which I do frequently.
And for the record I DESPISE Vegans. I think they're INSANE.
For what it's worth I would not hunt for sport but in the case of deer potentially being all over the freeway, I can see there is come purpose to it and the hunters I know do consume the meat.
DeleteI would easily kill to eat if I had to. Wouldn't feel good about it, but this is the planet we are on.
Sure. Kid. Do you remember the story of the Donner Party? In their desperation to try to survive they were reduced to CANNIBALISM.
DeleteThey ATE the flesh of fellow members of the party who had DIED.
In the end they were drawing lots to see which one would have to be KILLED so that the rest could survive another few days.
And if you remember the story of Ernest Henry Shackleton, the first to explore the continent of Antarctica, the expedition ran into massive challenges, and in order to survive the members were forced to slaughter a number of beloved dogs they'd brought to accompany them on the expedition. Shackleton himself, pefished in the Falkland Islands at age 47 leaving behind a wife and three children.
Such horrific stories helped make me the contented hobbit I am today. };-)>
I can occasionally use peanut butter as a substitute for meat. Occasionally.
ReplyDeleteTry tofu. IF it's well seasoned and stir fryed with lots of good veggies not overlooked, it can be really good. Inseasined, i's duller than Cream of Wheat.
DeleteI have to say that when I read of people in China eating fresh-killed puppies and kittens in restaurants and elsewhere, it makes me detest the Chinese. They are still barbarian if they do that. And when I hear that people in Venezuela and other Hellholes are killing and eating cats and dogs they've kept as PETS, it make me sick to my stomach.
ReplyDeleteI look at my cats, whom i dearly love, and I could no more do that to them than I could turn rocks into gold. No matter how hungry I got, I'd rather die than harm them, and I'd do my best to KILL anyone else who tried.
Franco, Interesting note about the Chinese is that they revere dogs and put them on at least equal footing with people. All those I've known anyway. I think those that do eat dog and cat in China do so out of a lack of food sources, which is why people have learned to consider such things as spiders, chicken feet, assorted insects, etc as delicacies.
DeleteGotta go with what is available.
Not saying the Chinese are all good people. I've heard some stories I wouldn't pass on. Then you have the Japanese with the shark fin soup.
I've heard otherwise, and seen disturbing pictures of huge, modern-looking Chinese markets, Kid, but only from sources on the net.
DeleteNo group of people is all good or all bad, but sometimes the differences in cultural norms among them can be downright repugnant.
Years ago a Chinese woman named Iris Chang wrote a book called The Rape of Nanking chronicling the atrocities performed by the Japanese during an invasion. Even the stories brought back by our surviving soldiers about the sadistic cruellty and brutality in Japanese POW camps pale in comparison to events chronicled in Iris Chang's book.
People I have known who actually lived through the Pacific Theater of the war have never been able to regard the Japanese with anything but disgust and withering contempt. That may be wrong, but I can't say I blame them.
Franco, I know a bit about the Jap conquest of Nanking. Yes, purely disgusting as well as actions to torture our WWII prisoners. Maybe this is why Japan is so sexually dysfunctional now. #1 in trying to perfect the sex doll. Wealthy Japanese female executives paying 50k for a man to compliment them for an evening. No sex they say.
DeleteMen taking their Nintendo DS 'girlfriend to a hotel and paying double occupancy.
For starters.
SEX DOLLS have to be THE most idotic, dehumanzing, life-defeating phenenomena the geniuses have dreamt up yet.
DeleteI see it as part of the overall pattern. that tells me NUMANITY is trying very hard to phase itself our of existence. I see the demented gravitation tward Leftist Horeseshit to be a clear sign that we afre giving up on ourselves.
Who needs SEX DOLLS, when that good old Rock Band "Mary Fist and Her Five Fabulous Fingers" is still around to help when certain needs become acute and no other help is in sight? ;-)
Well, it's a way to clean up the gene pool anyway.
DeleteFranco,
ReplyDeleteThe need for cheap labor is not always "A NEED based on GREED". Think picking cotton.
Let me REPEAT what I said above:
DeleteBUMPER STICKER SEEN in the AMERICAN SOUTH:
"If I'd a-known how it was gonna turn out, I woulda picked my OWN damn cotton!"
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You might want to review too my words regarding EXPLOITATION of other human beungs.
When something you do is FUNDAMENTALLY wrong and sinful, it may take time, but sooner or later it will ALWAYS blow up in your face. [By "you" I mean "people" not you, PERSONALLY, of course.]
Franco,
DeleteHave you ever seen a cotton boll up close and personal? Apparently, Africans were more tolerant of the heat in the cotton fields than white indenture servants were. I don't think that statement is a lie because when Mr. AOW was working at a parts warehouse, all the blacks did well on the brutally hot days.
As for the backfiring, how long have the slaves of African descent been free? Over 150 years.
I refer you to Jason D. Bell's We Have Overcome:
A black immigrant’s eloquent appreciation of the American Dream, and why his adopted nation remains the most noble experiment in enabling the pursuit of happiness.
It has been more than fifty years since the Civil Rights Act enshrined equality under the law for all Americans. Since that time, America has enjoyed an era of unprecedented prosperity, domestic and international peace, and technological advancement. It’s almost as if removing the shackles of enforced racial discrimination has liberated Americans of all races and ethnicities to become their better selves, and to work toward common goals in ways that our ancestors would have envied.
But the dominant narrative, repeated in the media and from the angry mouths of politicians and activists, is the exact opposite of the reality. They paint a portrait of an America rife with racial and ethnic division, where minorities are mired in a poverty worse than slavery, and white people stand at the top of an unfairly stacked pyramid of privilege.
Jason D. Hill corrects the narrative in this powerfully eloquent book. Dr. Hill came to this country at the age of twenty from Jamaica and, rather than being faced with intractable racial bigotry, Hill found a land of bountiful opportunity—a place where he could get a college education, earn a doctorate in philosophy, and eventually become a tenured professor at a top university, an internationally recognized scholar, and the author of several respected books in his field.
Throughout his experiences, it wasn’t a racist establishment that sought to keep him down. Instead, Hill recounts, he faced constant naysaying from so-called liberals of all races. His academic colleagues did not celebrate the success of a black immigrant but chose to denigrate them because this particular black immigrant did not embrace their ideology of victimization.
Part memoir, part exhortation to his fellow Americans, and, above all, a paean to the American Dream and the magnificent country that makes it possible, We Have Overcome is the most important and provocative book about race relations to be published in this century.
Addendum:
DeleteBuying into the white guilt meme is buying into crypt-Marxism.
crypto-Marxism
DeleteThe term “human exploitation” seems somewhat nebulous to me. The connation is most contexts seems to be “abuse” of human beings, but more simply it means “utilization” of human beings in a wide range of endeavors. Whether people worked in cotton fields as paid laborers, indentured servants, or as slaves, they were all “used” in the manufacture of a high demand agricultural produce. Slaves and indentured persons didn’t have much choice in having to work these fields, but they were housed, fed, and clothed. Paid laborers may not have had much choice either; if this person had limited opportunities, he may have taken the job because the alternative would be to stay home and starve.
DeleteI personally think that slavery is (and has always been) an abomination ... but let’s not think that Americans invented it, or that it only applied to blacks. Dr. Sowell tells us that far more millions of whites were enslaved than blacks. To carry on with the term “human exploitation,” communist leaning labor unions used this term quite often to make their argument for higher wages and extended benefits ... the effect of which was always increased costs for the consumers of union made products. One wonders, then, who was being exploited: laborers or consumers? Which of these is the most exploited: welfare recipients, or taxpayers? More examples of crypto-Marxism, perhaps.
An interesting –– and totally unexpected –– reaction to my attempt to state a fundamental principle –– an eternal truth of being –– that I believe applies now and has ALWAYS applied to everyone everywhere on earth.
DeleteIn simpler terms "EXPLOITATION," –– as I understand the term ––, is clearly a violation of the Golden Rule.
"What's done is done and can't be undone," as Lady Macbeth stated, but what MUST be done is to make a constant prayerful effort to REFINE our thinking and IMPROVE our conduct.
This has nothing to do with POLITICS, but everything to do with the attempt to make ourselves better CITIZENS and better CHRISTIANS.
Rationalizing away the sins of the past by pretending they weren't sins won't do a particle of good anymore than bathing in GUILT over the over the past could possibly improve the present.
Let's just say we were morally ignorant in the past, and forgive our ancestors because they didn't fully realize the cruelty inherent in what they were doing by thinking selfishly about how to USE peoples regarded as "less advanced and therefore less deserving" to improve the livi[ng conditons of those doing the using.
That's not MARXISM, it's just common sense ALTRUISM rooted a more enlightened understanding of the meaning of the gospels.
If our ancestors had been more enightened, and had had a better undersanding of fundamental moral principles, we would never have had to deal with MARXISM today.
The LEFT is inherently vicious, because it seeks hypocritically always to EXPLOIT grievances in order to gain POWER. The Left's brand of altruism is PURE PRETENSE with a vain ULTERIOR motive.
All that aside, we might have been a lot better off if we'd produced less cotton, grown less prosperous and had concrntrated instead on building a kinder, more generous, more idealistic society.
Could the production of COTTON possibly be more important than producing kinder, more generous, more understanding, more enlightened HUMAN BEINGS?
Somehow I doubt it.
I think my point was that words are “bendy” things. They mean one thing to one fellow, something else to another. Take the word “truth” for example. I suppose one could argue that the meaning of truth is self-evident, except that you have those that will argue, “Truth according to whom?” To answer such questions, i.e., what is truth, we may have to go back to the basic level: what do you know, and how do you know it?
DeleteSlavery has existed for as long as there have been human beings. Even the ancient Hebrews had slaves; we know this because the Old Testament provides rules for the treatment of Hebrew slaves. Well, in reality, Hebrew slaves were more like indentured servants. No matter the circumstances of their servitude, however, a requirement to treat them humanely was unyielding. The question is, given that human beings have always exploited others of their species, has human exploitation (defined however you wish), flown in the face of “eternal truth”? And if it has not flown in the face of “eternal truth,” then most certainly it is an affront to the “golden rule” (which we can trace back to around 2,400 BC in Egypt). I seem to recall that the Egyptians took slaves on a regular basis. Yet, we have to wonder how a violation of eternal truth is that even possible if slavery was permitted among God’s chosen people; if there were rules for the treatment of servants?
A thought: everything about human behavior, especially our comportment toward others, is “political.” We are not the only political species on the planet ... so say animal behaviorists who point to all mammals as being thus “infected.” Civics and/or religion have nothing to do with it. I sometimes wonder if we simply can’t help ourselves ...
I’m not able to justify bad behavior in history with the argument that our ancestors didn’t know any better. We might even argue that everyone knows right from wrong from about the age of seven, but then we get into circular arguments, such as “right or wrong according to whom?” As for altruism, do we actually unselfishly promote someone else’s welfare, or do we only do this because we think that doing so benefits ourselves in some way (such as getting to Heaven, for example)?
Well, Mustang, I am always very sure of what I mean when I use words, which I usually choose very carefully. However I seem to have a great deal of difficulty communicating what seems perfectly clear to me to others.
DeleteDoubtless it must be a flaw in the way I express my thoughts, and the problen seems only to get worse with the passage of time as we move farther and farther away from the standards if English usage I was rigorously taught in the 1940's and 50's.
I have no idea what I could do to improve the situation. If you ,have any suggestions, I'd be happy to hear them.
Franco,
ReplyDeleteThe problem today is this: how should we today make up for the sins of the past? Surrender all we own to Americans of African descent? Something else?
At some point, there has to be a plan of atonement and redemption so as to move forward.
BTW, my cousin recently had her DNA analyzed. Surprise! A small portion (7%) of her DNA should descent from an African nation.
The analysis also showed some kinship to Anne Boleyn. Should we then approach Queen Elizabeth 2 and demand something of her?
@ AOW
Delete“At some point, there has to be a plan of atonement and redemption so as to move forward.“
I have to disagree. I do not feel personally responsible for anything my ancestors may have done, or for things they should have done, but didn’t. In my faith, I am responsible (answerable) for my own decisions in life. I have never owned slaves; I have never condoned such behavior ... and as far as I can determine, none of my ancestors were slave owners. In my view, this “atonement” business is a trap that leads toward the further disenfranchisement of folks whose family may have been unfairly treated in the past. If we were to construct a list of all the unfairness in the world, from the beginning until just last week, it would be a very long list. Now enter the godforsaken notion of the political left that has accomplished the degeneration of minorities through the sin of lowered or diminished expectations. The notion being that they can’t compete in mainstream society, so let’s level the playing field by taxing hardworking people to pay them benefits each week. This is so anti-American, I almost don’t know where to begin.
If I may butt in. Happiness only comes from hard work and accomplishment. If LBJ wanted to do something for the blacks, he would have set up all levels of free education for them - from trade schools to master degree courses. We would still have some percentage of blacks who are problem people. We of course have problem people in all races and categories. Additionally, clinton would not have shipped all of our mfg jobs out of the country. These are where most low education people got a paycheck.
DeleteMustang, I almost made this reply to one of your other comments. My grandfathers were slaves to corporate America, working at places like Ford before the unions reeled the greedy suckers in. So, what's the diff? Blacks were slaves given food clothing and housing and that is about all any of those early Ford workers got for their trouble.
DeleteNone of us owes anyone anything unless we participated in whatever crime we are talking about.