Monday, June 7, 2021

PSA, EV's

 Charging your electric vehicle at home, using a standard 20 amp plug in that you already have on the garage wall will get you 4-5 miles of charge per hour.  After 10 hours, expect to be able to go 30-40 miles.

Wonder how the cost of that electricity compares to gas.

There is a level 2 set up which gets you 15-30 miles per hour of plug in charge so 10 hours gets you 150-300 miles the next day.  (Pretty ambiguous between 15 or 30 but that's what is on the vid.)  You'll need a professional to install that plug(s) in your garage.

I wonder how many EV buyers know this?

Here's a 6 minute vid with the guys talking about it.  The first 2:15 or so will get you the above info.

I don't see buying an EV, certainly not as a primary vehicle.  Maybe a secondary for short hops to the store.



16 comments :

  1. This is something I've been pointing out for a while, wondering how it was supposed to work.
    So many amps over so many hours, Amp/Hours are the storage capacity of a battery.
    If you want to run 30 amps or 60 amps through a wire, it's gonna be a hefty wire.
    NOW 'experts" are saying the same thing. And that we don't have the electrical capacity to charge that many cars. And we won't.
    Now I'll watch your video.
    It's like Covid. You know they are lying, but they are supposed to be the experts so maybe they know something you don't. And they don't.

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    1. Ed, yea. Depending on the volume, I see a Potential charging crisis coming along with rolling blackouts across the country. Take a while for that many EVs to be out there but still. Unless they're lying to us about our 'fragile' electrical grid. They wouldn't do that would they?

      Clown show.

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    2. Here's a thought.
      If the price of gas is more on one street corner than another, which will you buy from?
      Now. How will you control the price you pay for electricity to charge at home?

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    3. True Ed. 1) More control by the gov, and 2) I've always said "if they could figure out how to run cars on dirt, imagine how expensive dirt would be".

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  2. We had electric fork trucks for years at work. Climb several inclines per hour-no. cold weather-no. charge overnight-sometimes nothing happened, battery still dead. Batteries need constant maintenance. Maybe Florida or Texas: flat ground and hot weather it might work there. James B.

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    1. Anon, we had electric lift trucks in a warehouse in Cincinnati. All flat floor work. They mostly worked but were sure a pain to deal with - battery water, charging between 5 pm and 8 am next day.
      Plug Power has been converting fork trucks to hydrogen fuel cell and it looks like that works very well. 3 minutes to top off the hydrogen. fwiw.

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    2. Hydrogen as a fuel cell or in an internal combustion engine.
      Nowhere near as deadly as lithium cells.

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    3. Quite true. Not that we do things that make sense. And hydrogen is Renewable !

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  3. To coin a phrase: "Nuts". - We really expect "them" to connect the dots? Then I read that the concern is where do all worn out old dead batteries go and get disposed with?

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    1. Bunk, Good question of course. I believe they plan to attach each on to an adorable dolphin or equally lovely fur seal. Then create new taxes to deal with the environmental disaster.

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  4. Most uppity self defining HIGH IQ and self appointed Moral-ly Mind Bloated growed up rugrats/
    crumb snatchers, are the same one's in Hitler's World - were the easiest to FOOL!
    They either are still wet behind the ears, can't see past the end of their nose, and or, only have a head to keep their ears apart.
    It must echo in there-there-there.

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    1. The Snake Oil business is thriving TS/WS

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  5. I read recently that to replace the battery in an EV (not including labor) is between $5,000 and $15,000. Not sure how this would equate to saving the planet. Also not sure how often battery replacement would become necessary. Think I'll just stay with dinosaur juice for now.

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    1. Mustang, I remember reading that battery replacement in the Chevy Volt was about 8k. That was when they first came out. Can't be cheap in any case.

      I read that molecules of petroleum have been found in space, so the whole 'fossil fuel' story may be BS as well.

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  6. Buy an EV you have to have an electrician change your power system in your house. Cost would likely be up to $1k. If more and more EV are sold this leads to extra electrical costs for the home owner and the community as the price per kw jumps via demand. This would increase all electrical costs because of vehicles, which now are only 2% EV. Batteries used in EV are created in child mines, and like all batteries they wear out over time stopping full charging and leading to failure.

    The amount needed to create an electrical grid for EVs to go across country is in the trillions plus the time to charge is too long. Recently it took an Electric VW 18 days to go from the east coast to the west coast via the southern route as it was the only way. EVs sound good but are expensive, they are not good for distance, or the environment.

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    1. Makes perfect sense JG. Agree of course. I would consider one for commuting my 40 miles total commute to/from work but not at today's prices. Replace an entire drive train with battery and electric motors and want to charge more? Not happenin.

      Plus I'd really have to put pencil to paper and see if I was even saving anything between charging costs and battery replacement/disposal fee versus just buying gas. My spidey sense tells me It'd probably cost more than gas and of course the climate story is insulting BS.

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