Monday, September 15, 2014

Is Islam a Religion or a Cult ?

Answer: Cult

I chose the definition of a cult from here because it was concise and to the point.

 The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.
muslims will cut your head off if you dis their dead leader, and will kill its own members if they try to leave the cult.
Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
They will kill a muslim who tries to leave the cult
Mind-altering practices (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, and debilitating work routines) are used in excess and serve to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).
5 prayer sessions a day. They're all watching you.
The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel (for example, members must get permission to date, change jobs, marry—or leaders prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, whether or not to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth).
See koran. See memri TV. See the women in strict dress coded attire.
The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s) and members (for example, the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar—or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity).
Muslims believe they are the master race above all others.
The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society.
Any non-muslim is an infidel to be killed, abused, robbed, raped or otherwise used in any way desired by the muslims.
The leader is not accountable to any authorities (unlike, for example, teachers, military commanders or ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream religious denominations).
The Ayatollah, king or other monarchial leader is above all political leaders in a given country. islam first all else follows.
The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members' participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (for example, lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities).
Islam's middle name is lying and deceit. Any tactic, deemed to gain an advantage over a non-muslim group is not only sanctioned by the koran, it is encouraged.

The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt in order to influence and/or control members. Often, this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.
There is nothing subtle about muslims. Rape, torture, selling female children to old men as wives, clitorectomies - all in the course of normal activity.
Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group.
N/A.  Once a muslim, always a muslim. All in the family.  Deviate and it's honor killing time for you.
The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.
But of course. Death to those who resist when they get to you.
The group is preoccupied with making money.
One of the ISIS group's first goals was to take control of the oil output to sell on the black market, likely to 'civilized' countries like France and various other affiliations via the UN.
Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group and group-related activities.
Well Duh.
Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.
Well Duh.
The most loyal members (the “true believers”) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave (or even consider leaving) the group.
Well Duh.


  1. Replies
    1. I can't cite chapter and verse, but I know that there is a verse in the Koran that goes something like this: "I, Allah, am the great deceiver."

    2. AOW, Deceit is islam's middle name. It is encouraged.

  2. By definition, It's an Abrahamic religion. It simply hasn't grown out of the similar corruption that plagued Christianity several hundred years go.

    1. The outgrowing is not on the horizon -- except for a few powerless Muslim reformers.

      The Islamic Reformation has already happened. See The Islamic Reformation: Those who call for an Islamic 'Reformation' are missing the point: it has already happened, unfortunately. Excerpt:

      ...According to 18th century records, the Ottoman empire - Islam's ruling power - had not flogged, imprisoned, or passed the death sentence on adulterers for nearly 400 years. Under the kanun - secular Ottoman imperial law - the highest punishment for adultery had been a fine. The traditionalist Ottoman jurists had relied on the Quran's "four witnesses" rule, which had made proving adultery virtually impossible.

      Along came a self-professed Islamic reformer named Abdul Wahhab. He was trained classically but attracted to Ibn Taymiya - who 400 years earlier had broken away from Sunni traditionalism. Wahhab said that procuring a confession was enough to stone someone to death and proceeded to do so....

      More at the above link.

    2. CI, I don't believe it ever will. Barbarians 'rewarded' with total female domination, sadistic violence and enough money to do whatever. Not going to happen. Total commitment with these vermin.

    3. AOW, Thank you for the reference !

    4. Kid,
      In my view, Dr. Tawfik Hamid is the real deal. I've met with him face to face.

      Interesting that the msm avoid Dr. Hamid like the plague!

    5. AOW, Sure there may be some real deals. But in the end what will they matter?
      I also have to wonder if muslims are moving away form the middle east to escape middle east islam, why do they keep their religion, building mosques and "propagating the cancer" if they are really committed to living as civilized people?

      As a general wonderment.

    6. I meant to put quotes around "religion" regards keeping it when they move to civilized countries. That's a problem for me that they don't just denounce islam and make a statement that separates them from what islam is and that is ISIS. Regardless of what the self-appointed pre-school teacher obama wants us bible and gun grippers to believe.

      Hey obama, you dweeb, we know what islam is.

    7. Kid,
      As far as I can tell, individuals such as Dr. Tawfik Hamid are spitting into the hurricane-force wind.

      Dr. Hamid is, as far as I can tell, a nominal Muslim. He doesn't believe most of what is stated in the Koran, particularly the Medinan verses. He probably attends the local Sufi mosque, which has to have tight security because the Sunnis are always issuing threats against that Sufi mosque.

      All -- and I do mean all -- the Sunni mosques and Islamic centers here in Northern Virginia are Wahhabist. I know a few Muslims (now former Muslims) who fled Afghanistan, came here to Northern Virginia and began to attend the local mosques. "Same thing that I heard from the Taliban in Afghanistan," one former Muslim said to me. He started reading the Koran, discovered that these Wahhabists are preaching authentic Islam, and became atheists. "I'm done with Islam and all religions," one said to me.

    8. AOW, Yes, I'm sure some come to their senses, but as you probably noticed my reply to Fredd, the number of them compared to 2.3? bln muslims is spitting into space actually. We need a majority on our side who don't drive around with coexist stickers but instead see islam for the cancer it is and demand action - at least in America.

      Did you see where Maxine Waters, transported here from the planet of the apes no doubt, says that sharia conforms with our constitution? Wtf? How can anyone be that stupid or corrupt ? Unreal.

    9. God Almighty! What drugs is Maxine Waters on?

      She must have as her mission the return to the plantation!

    10. AOW. Yea ! These people are beyond words, which may be their tactic.

  3. Ed....for us, it certainly IS.

  4. A death cult. NOTE: ever wonder why all of those 'moderate muslims' never ever bad mouth the 'extremists' within Islam? There is an answer for that: there are no extremists within Islam. To denounce 'extremists' would be to denounce Islam itself, and nobody is going to do that.

    With the extremely small exception of some outspoken reasonable folks like Zuhdi Jasser and others, but they are a minute voice of dissent, and risk a mullah, Imam or two calling for their heads.

    1. Fredd, Zuhdi may be misdirection. Supported and directed by the muslims. And there are no moderate muslims. They are either trying to kill us or breed us out. They are all my enemy. They're making good progress in Europe. They need to be stopped here, but instead we are encouraging them and actually paying some of them to live here.

    2. Muslims are sneaky, indeed, and may be directing Zuhdi Jasser, but most of what he says suggests this is not the case. I wouldn't put it past the ragheads, though....

    3. Fredd, I'm quite satisfied to give him the benefit of the doubt. But a handful of people versus 2.3 billion muslims, most of whom dance every 9-11? What will it matter. He's not doing anything more than pissing into space.

    4. PS, Fredd My time ran out on the market correction of course. You are the proud winner of nothing since we didn't bet anything, And that's a good thing for me. Truly amazing market. QE is down to 15 bln a month now and thee market, she continues to run.

      This is a once in 3 or 5 lifetimes event.

    5. My prediction (based on my 'magma' theory): this 'bull market' will continue through the upcoming election, surge after a conservative landslide, and continue towards its inevitable Dow level of 20,000. It has to reach 20,000 (or, if you prefer, an S&P 500 level of perhaps 2400) before the built up economic pressure is in equilibrium. Then a sell off could trip a moderate bear market as folks cash in after the extended and failed US experiment with radical socialism has come and gone.

    6. Fredd, I'd say you may have it. I've seen predictions of S&P 2840, but you never get to The number straightaway. 2400 might be the juice. Got any good stock tips?

    7. Stock tip of the day: buy high, sell low. Er, uh, wait....let me check my notes...

  5. A lot of conversions take place in Prison-the numbers grow from the captive selection pool.
    Lobbyist demand more and tougher laws, and we as a targeted people with the Power to
    control the government, have to be immobilized - when one rises to a formidable opponent.
    Railroad the guy, by convincing him an action was under the radar. With passed offenses
    a whole lot more done by the Lib/Lefty: John Edwards, heard was one... more than the space
    to list here.
    And so it goes...
    On September 23, Dinesh D’Souza will appear before a federal judge in Manhattan to learn whether he will do jail time for violating campaign-finance law. (He pleaded guilty earlier this year to charges of funneling $20,000 to a friend’s Senate campaign via straw donors.) It will be the latest turn in a remarkable life that has embodied—perhaps more than any other—the passions and commitments of the modern conservative movement.

    1. TS/WS. I can't reconcile the blacks gravitating to islam because islam has been the largest users of black slaves in the history of the world. Make the US looks like kindergarten slave owners.. Other than I think a lot of blacks hate America, and joining up with islam gives them an opportunity to cast their vote of distaste in a public way.

      Well let's say Dinesh is guilty. Compared to all the dems are guilty of in just them last couple years let alone the whole of obama's time in office senate and white house. Unreal but also transparent to anyone with a coulpe brain cells.

  6. Nor why black folk still vote Democrat, after FDR and Henry A. Wallace
    re-pooed the Acres and Mules, from the Black Farmers.
    The Ag Re-adjustment Act.
    As to the conversion in confined spaces, if not converted ---- there are a
    lot of stories of jailhouse (Prison) deaths.

    1. TS/WS, Yes, when every piece of black disrespecting racist legislation for the last 200 years came from the democrats....
      Einstein was right, there is no limit to human stupidity

  7. There are not only Black fellows [mentally bullied] into converting--
    there are all races targeted once inside of the walls.

  8. Obama, you know damn well you will put plenty of troops on the ground AFTER THE ELECTION. You know it. We know it. So stop lying to those few stupid little naive remaining Liberal Americans who still believe everything that you say. There are "boots" are attached to a soldiers' feet. We ought to stop referring to "boots on the ground"; it's highly disrespectful to the men and women who wear those damn boots, who are going to be fighting and dying for you over there.
    THAT is what pisses me off, everything he says he won't do or will do is based on, AFTER THE ELECTION.. How about putting some Golf Shoes on the ground?

    1. Kind of off topic there Mr Seeker, but what the hell, obama can't be criticized too much.

    2. FUNNY, I saw your comment at Always On Watch where you said we were deceiving ourselves if we didn't think Obama'd send boots and I said "Not until the day after the midterms"
      And ya, Kid....can't be criticized too much.... no way

    3. Thank you Z.. Unreal isn't it?

    4. The Quran is a profoundly mediocre book to be sure (and, no, the Bible isn't much better) and I really think that Sam Harris nailed it when he said that "We are dealing with some subset of the Muslim world that believes in principles of jihad and martyrdom which are really deal-breakers when it comes time to organizing a global civilization. There is no possible future in which aspiring martyrs can make good neighbors. And until Muslims themselves start to acknowledge that and start to marginalize this death cult that is growing in their midst we have a tremendous problem."

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    6. Will, In my mind, all other religions are peaceful in nature and do not promote mass conquest through violence as the islam cult does and so islam must be made to stand as far away form every other "religion" as possible. I see the koran as a blueprint for sadistic conquest of the world and even people within its own community. It is a cancer. As far as all muslims, I feel they are either trying to kill me or breed me out so that they can take over the political body and instill sharia.