Tuesday, March 14, 2017

VA - Weigh In Please

In my opinion, military veterans should be in an environment where they can go to their family doctor or any specialist paid for by the government.  Folks we are talking about 1% of the population....

As of 2017, I feel like the VA was created to fuck the veterans.
 


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  1. As a veteran, I have never availed myself of their services.
    I suppose I might feel different if I had not had employer benefits since discharge, but I always felt that vets should get care for service related injuries only. I know there was a promise of more for vets up to a certain year. Somebody enlighten me.

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    1. I've never met or talked to a Vet who would go to the VA, so now we are talking about Far less than 1% of the population already.

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  2. I'm a veteran. I will NEVER go to a VA facility for ANYTHING, since I have a couple of nickels to rub together. IMO, the VA is just a facade of a hospital to provide cover for the wild, impossible promises made by recruiters to those who join the Army, Air Force, Navy or Marines to get them to sign on the dotted line.

    Of course the VA is fucked up. It's not a real hospital system. "Join the military, and receive free medical care for the rest of your life." Who believes that, anyway? I don't.

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    1. I've never met or talked to a Vet who would go to the VA, so now we are talking about Far less than 1% of the population already.

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  4. I've only used the VA for my retirement physical, to officiate my disability claims. Since I have TRICARE Prime, I get decent enough care without having to travel to the nearest VA facility. But I do know that it seems VA issues are not as systemic as the media might lead to believe. Most of the issues we hear about occur at select facilities, with recurrence. I work and am friends with several people who speak highly about their treatment at VA facilities.....and in a couple of cases, we're talking about guys with missing limbs.

    The VA could obviously be better [Trump, where are on on this?]....but it could also be worse.

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    1. CI, I've never met or talked to a Vet who would go to the VA, so now we are talking about Far less than 1% of the population already.

      Trump needs to be on this. Yea, the media output is probably overblown. I hear about guys writhing in pain on the floor and a nurse basically ignoring them, guys sitting around for hours and hours, VA hospitals spending millions of $ on art work. You're the first time I've heard anything positive. Surely some of the doctors meant the hypocratic oath.

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  5. I've never understood why the VA had to have their own separate hospitals. It doesn't make good economic sense. However, if people want to get an inkling of single payer healthcare, all they have to do is look at the VA.

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    1. The key difference between the VA and single payer, is that the VA is a contractual obligation from a Nation to the Citizen. Single payer is simply un-Constitutional entitlement.

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    2. Adrienne, I've used that line myself to describe government health care in any country. It is easy to look around and see how it is failing everywhere. Google NHS problems for example.

      What's "odd" is you can ask someone in favor of single payer if they think the government runs anything efficiently and economically and they'll say no, or we can know that that is not possible. It's not their money. They still get paid if they do a good job or act like morons. They can't Possibly do a good job. Then those people will still say they want government to run health care or fill in the blank.

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  6. I too am a Vet...signed on that dotted line. I applied years ago...twice...and was denied. Apparently I had made a pretty decent life for myself and family and in their eyes I wan't deserving. I had a plus net worth. Truth.

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    1. IMP, Didn't know that. I thought you just opted out for better providers. Hmm.

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    2. Kid..they didn't much give me a choice as I approached Medicare age. I wanted VA like my buds had. Down here in FlaDuh...the full blown VA hospital facility is 30 miles and top notch. There's a walk in VA clinic 3 miles from me too. I figured wrong...that I'd be welcome. I suppose these VA execs need their 300K salaries and office suites?

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    3. IMP, I don't see anything good about the VA. CI had a few good stories but we need more Good stories than Bad to sway opinion. Mine at least.
      I just don't get the concept. Why not just direct to private medical?

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    1. AOW, btw I tweeted this idea to Trump a few days ago. Does he read his tweets? Not possible, he gets thousands of replies to every tweet he puts out.

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  8. I would rather my tax dollars went to help veterans than those job-avoiding, expensive grill-on-they-teeth, baby makin', jive-talkin', wearing they pants below their asses watching pay per view all day assholes.

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    1. Cube, Fukken A. Add to the jivers, the people from other countries that come here just to plop their ass in the welfare chair, and even more so the moslem vermin who do it because their book tells them the infidel will pay their way.

      Given the cost just to run the VA even without patients has got to be more expensive as an entity than if we just deleted it, sold the properties and equipment, and sent vets off to their doctors. Gotta be.

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    2. Cube, you forgot 22 inch wheels with low profile tires and chrome spinners paid for by EBT cards.

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    3. Cube...fucking A..I second that too.

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    4. OOps..was I corrected or warned? That I'm just a low life gutter snipe from New Joisey?

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    5. IMP, Huh? We can fucking swear here. Fucking A.

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    6. Swearing is 000.00000000001% of what the democrats/liberals subject us to daily.

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    7. PS - Fuck me. Look at the 4 libtard SC judges and tell me you can hold down your lunch for more than 47 seconds.

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    8. Kid....I do luv the shit out a ya man.

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    9. I'm really impressed by the amount of young ins sitting behind President Trump in Nashville today. Maybe there is hope for the future of America?

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    10. IMP, I'm loving the fucking shit outta you man. :-)

      I saw a vid that predicted that America's youngest coupla generations will be Conservative. Cycles. Could happen. Wouldn't THAT be a hoot. ? :-)

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    11. Imp: I love Jersey people so it's OK if you swear around me.

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    12. I love this thread so so much :) and THANK YOU and God bless all the vets out there.

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    13. God Bless Every Vet. Regardless of how they performed unless they committed heinous crimes.

      Somewhere here during commenting I think I may have had 4 ounces too much alcohol....

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    14. This blog was actually created to give the Mother of an Army Ranger a place to swear... fwiw.

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    15. @Cube..thank you..in Jersey somethings wrong with you if you don't use it as an adjective, noun, adverb, pronoun, verb and your best goombas first name. I damn sure left Joisey 45 years ago but still can't shake the habit of my true roots I guess. And I need a place to vent where ya don't get censored for printing the word "oven, damn, sh!t" and so on. Ours is a richer language because it it.

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  9. Translating for Pres. Trump...

    This is amazing! Interesting English lesson.

    Have you
    noticed that if you rearrange the letters in "illegal immigrants," and
    add just a few more letters, it spells: "Go home you free-loading,
    benefit-grabbing, resource-sucking, non-English-speaking assholes and
    take those other hairy-faced, sandal-wearing, bomb-making, camel-riding,
    goat-shagging, raggedy-ass bastards with you."

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    1. IMP, Yes, exacterly. Why do people have a problem with the sodoku of real life? It's Obvious !

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    2. Imagine being so fucking stupid that you wring your hands over being called racist about moslem savage fucks that put 5 year old boys in a cage, spray them with gasoline and set them on fire. How fucked up does your brain need to be to accept something like that. Or 12 year old girls being stripped, hands and feet nailed to a wooden cross and crucified and left to die over many days in that condition. I fucking hate liberals and libtards. I'm ready for them all to die.

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    3. And marie harf comes along as a State Dept spokesmoron and tells us if only the ISIS savages could get jobs flipping burgers, none of this would be going on. That kind of shit just makes me go berserk.

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  10. VA - gvt run therefore- inept!!
    C-Christian Soldier

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    1. C-CS - Why don't people understand government has no motivation to perform.

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    2. because the people have been propogandized by the ed system from an early age that the gvt is their "friend"

      Happily --Homeschooling movement is growing at a record pace!!!

      as to our VETS --and the military --that is the only program that should NOT be CUT-
      C-CS

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    3. because the people have been propogandized by the ed system from an early age that the gvt is their "friend"

      Happily --Homeschooling movement is growing at a record pace!!!

      as to our VETS --and the military --that is the only program that should NOT be CUT-
      C-CS

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    4. C-CS, I hear that kids are being "taught" to belive they must obey the politicians. That the politicians are in charge. Geeeezus, how 180 to the American concept is that.

      Dept of Ed MUST GO !

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  11. My dad was a WWII vet and had to drive over 100 miles to the VA hospital in Jackson, MS to see the doctor. In those days it certainly took longer than 90 minutes to make the trip. No interstates in those days, but thanks to Ike we got them. But as best I can remember, wasn't it that Austrian house painter that built the autobahn in Germany. Heard a story just yesterday about some VA hospital administrators refusing to put up portraits of Trump and Pence. Think that has been fixed. An ex-service man or woman should be able to see the doctor of their own choosing, not the one they are shuffled into at the VA. The VA, as I see it is just another out of control bureaucracy who only goal is self-preservation.

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    1. Ron, Even after racking my brain and submitting to waterboarding, I cannot think of a single positive thing for why Veterans should go anywhere beside their doctor for medical care. Like 500 or 1000 other federal departments, the VA must simply be just another way the Fed fucks us over and gives free money to their friends. Money laundering.

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