I find it interesting that this professor does not bring up the fact that degrading art was one of Russia's Subversive Goals in their attack on America. Yes. Destroy Art in the country of your enemy and you further degrade their resolve to maintain themselves as a Superior Moral nation. The end result? Valuable Paintings that are nothing more than white paint on a white canvas sold for millions. If only I'd known years ago. I can create some real shit when it comes to 'art'.
How much more can you fuck things up that that ?
I feel humbled. I knew it wasn't a Pollock(much too flaccid composition) but I thought the final artist was Barnett Newman.
ReplyDeleteIt's easy enough to take some of the worst excess of contemporary art ,compare it to old masters and think that proves a point. Cezanne is the man.
Duck, I knew it wasn't a Pollack also. I also thought the final artist may have been someone from the animal kingdom.
DeleteNot sure what the point is in your 2nd paragraph. Paint me as in the theme of this vid being that I believe Art should seek to expand and exceed on these masterpieces. This seems to be the case in any other genre. In 1980, I had entire room filled with CPU and disk storage, the extent of which equated to 56 mb of disk and 256 K of memory at the cost of 70k. Now for 1k I have in my pocket thousands of times that capacity. All genres should find their way forward in such a manner, though maybe not the same rate of expansion.
I enjoy all the masters. I find Remington to be especially impressive.
BTW - Bob Ross is the man when it comes to art.
DeleteRussia was responsible for degrading it's own art not ours. Stalin decreed that the greatS Soviet graphic arts movement be replaced by lifeless soviet realism. It was the only aesthetic accepted by Ayn Rand (representational,hard edge, monumental).
ReplyDeleteAs for modern art (abstract expressionism) check out the story of the CIA and the Leo Castelli gallery.
"Russia was responsible for degrading it's own art not ours." Bullshit. Look up the Soviet Active Measures Details.
DeleteDucky, you seem to have entirely missed the point that what this guy's suggesting is that isn't ART.
ReplyDeleteI happen not to 100% agree with him...I like Rauschenberg, I like Frankenthaler, Diebenkorn, etc...many of them...but this prof is right; is that REALLY "ART" or "SCRIBBLING?" Pretty scribbling, I'd add.
Kid, I was a little freaking out when he disparaged Impressionism at the start and calmed down when he admitted that MOnet, Manet, etc., WERE good (that's big of him, they were EXCELLENT) but that we went too far. Well, I DO like non representative art, but the beautiful art of years ago, truly representational, was spectacular, no doubt about it.
I have an artist friend in Indiana who has been saying what this prof's saying for years....I mean, REALLY? Can you imagine what that WHITE canvas behind him "which is art" COSTS? I'm with you...if we'd only known how much we could make by drawing a LINE!
We actually 'destroyed art' here without help from Russia, in my opinion. I enjoyed this. thanks!
Thank You Z. It's a big subject with lots of room for opinion and angles.
DeleteBottom line though, someone show me recently created Art that rivals any of the masters works. MC Escher maybe is one of the latest examples beyond 1950's. Escher was used extensively in images in the Marvel movie Doctor Strange. Dali has some quality stuff regardless if one agrees with the content or not.
FEW if any are producing quality the likes of what was produced in the past. If someone doesn't agree, point me to a piece.
Let me add - Google - or favorite search engine - Images of Pencil Drawings. Damn, if those things are real there is some Serious Talent out there.
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DeleteThey key, it would seem, was his presumption: "If we are to be intellectually honest ..." Why anyone would support Serrano baffles me. Do we seek a more uplifting world, or are we instead satisfied with pictures of corpses and displayes of feces and other filth? Don't get me wrong: I don't care what Serrano and others produce. our's is a free country. I'm just not sure why anyone would rave about it. Henry Miller, the creator of literary filth, is another example.
ReplyDeleteSam, Agreed, If some people want to see that I don't care, but it seems like there isn't Any quality art being produced these days. Meaningless forms, demoralizing creations, etc - all part of the soviet subversion tactic as well. Part of step one which is demoralization defined as not just having to do with sexual morals but also things like removing quality, uplifting, inspiring things in our environment, art one small part.
DeleteI look around at people when I go out anywhere and a majority are dressed like bums. That's demoralizing. Hell, I get dressed to take the trash down. (Unless it's real dark)
Why is Serrano always the example of modern taste?
DeleteWhy not use Agnes Martin, Richard Serra, Sol LeWitt, Cindy Sherman, Anselm Kiefer or the painters Z mentioned.
Courbet's. "L'Origine du Monde" and Manet's , "Le Dejeuner sur l'Herbe" were bombs thrown at the Salon which ,despite what the narrator says, needed a good shaking up.
I don't believe the problem is the defamation of art rather it's that art of any period has so little influence today.
I believe art has Lots of influence.
DeleteI am all of the Beatles "White Album." ... :) (Too late in the day for me to think about this big picture but I enjoyed the clip Kid) ..:)
ReplyDeleteI did like a lot of the tunes on the White Album Bunk. If I had to put a tune on my playlist it would be Dear Prudence. I did like many of the other tunes but would only want to hear them every few years or so if that.
DeleteSo were the Russians behind the velvet painting of dog's playing poker?
ReplyDeleteNo, that was me Ed.
DeleteI'm glad to read what others have wrtten able. I am not in synch with the Prager University point of view, myself, any more than I accept "Piss Christ" or Andy Warhol's Campbell Soup Cans and grotesquly colored images of Marilyn Monroe as "art."
ReplyDeleteThe Prager view, if we may call it that, strikes me as a little too close to nineteenth-century Philistinism, the stutefying views of The Academy, and the embrace of Pre-Raphaellite images which, despite their obvious skill in draftsmanship and pantng technique, have always seemed like "Borderline Kitsch" to me.
I certainly disagree that Impressionism begab a "Wrong Turn" in the direction direction art took in the late-nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. Much of the impressionists's work captures and magnifies the essential beauty to be found in landscapes, flower pieces, informal portraits, and interiors.
In latter years, however, the notion that Anything and Everything can and SHOULD be regarded as "art" is poppycock. Squatting over a canvas, excreting on it, smearing the warm feces in random patterns, letting it dry, and exhibiting it with a title such as "Life in the Slums," or "The Holy Ghost" is NOT "art" it is FLUMMERY that bordes on INSANITY.
Interesting that you bring up the pre-Raphaelites. Visit the narrators site and read the blurb which compares some of hid art to theirs. His is really deficient in draftmanship and composition in comparison. In fact, his work is pretty weak.
DeleteFor some reason he really dislikes the Impressionists although he should probably withhold his vitriol for Cezanne whose flat blocks of color opened the door for Cubism and abstraction.
He's a hack who lacks the talent to excel so he makes these cheesy videos.
Franco, I don't quite see it that way. I see it as a general assessment of 'modern art' in that there is little that rivals the masters. We don't care about hte content so much as the quality. There is so much of this world that could be reproduced, enhanced, abstracted, etc beyond the crap that is out there now.
DeleteDuck, who gives a fuck what this professor's artistic talent amounts to. That's not what the video is about. It's about Art at Large, Not His Art. You should consider mental evaluation and treatment options. Why not get a clue before you take that final ride eh?
DeleteDuck, and Cubism? I wouldn't give you ten cents for a Picasso, unless I could sell it for 20 cents.
DeleteSimilar developments have ocurred in the field of Music. Unfortunately, too many find MUSICAL degeneration a whoe lot easier to accept and even enjoy than they do to similar trends in pictorial and sculptural art, literature and architecture
ReplyDeleteWhen Frank Lloyd went WRONG, too many semi-educated people were afraid of being called "Philistines" to protest the absurdities he put over on a craven aesthetic leadership and a gullible, pretentious public too eager to be seen as "with it," and au courant."