At the very least, Trump popularity says that a very large part of the "Intelligent" citizenry has committed to rejecting standard issue politicians. That can only be good in the longer term.
The more I watch and listen to him, the more I like him. Actually, I starting liking him a long time ago, but never told anyone. I wanted to be sure. I ended up voting for him in our primary even though I knew Cruz would win.
Adrienne, Cruz was my pick. I have no confidence in Trump, but I have every confidence the beast will complete the American flushing process. Therefore I am a Trump voter. He does say some great things. Immigration, NATO, 2nd Amendment, Taxes, Negotiating with Congress, come to mind recently, and I can ignore the ass things he says because when I balance that against the lies I know I'm getting from lobbyist in the pocket politicians, he still comes up on top.
My fervent hope is that he does a whole bunch of conservative and useful things for America and thereby rewards those willing to take a chance on a non-politician, possibly setting the stage for America to reject "politicians" for a long time to come. Yea, a lot to ask for I know. :-)
PS - and Veterans. Damn, they've been SO abused by government Basterds. (spelling yea I know) They're only 1% of the population ! And homos are only 1% of the population. If Veterans got as much press as homos, we'd be getting somewhere. Nothing against homosexuals. No one is going to dictate I hae sex with a man, so I won't do that to them but let's have a little balance please.
It is through sheer good luck and good fortune that America has Trump today. No other country has been this lucky to have a non-politician, politically incorrect, honest and patriotic presidential candidate upon whom the special interest groups have no ill-effect whatsoever. He has his own money so he answers only to the public.
Had Americans been Japanese, and had Japan been going through this immigration debacle and other problems like america is, the election would have been over from the get go. No other candidate could even think about running against Trump. In fact, due to shame and hurting conscience, the opponent would have withdrawn all by himself. Japanese are patriotic.
It is only because of the treacherous traitors that we have within our country, that we are even arguing about whether to vote for Trump or Hillary. To a patriot, who loves his country, and does not want to let America permanently deteriorate, the choice is a no-brainer. It can only be Trump.
Make no mistake - America will never again get a chance like this. This is a critical stage, and we are at crossroads. If Trump does not win, there will be no turning back, we will reach the point of no return. If Trump wins, we will manage to salvage America.
To those who are thinking about "principles and purity" before America by not voting for Trump - Just look yourselves in the mirror, and ask your conscience - Am I doing the right thing? Hopefully, you will get the right answer.
IMP, I don't know what Trump would do. But I have little to go on to believe he would spend this much of his own money, poison his relationship with the media and with hollywood (his reality show(s), and encounter other negative effects which are not immediately apparent, just to 'make more money?' It's just does not ad up.
I have to give your scenario 100% of the doubt. 100%. Whether I like Donald or Not personally.
Most especially, this country is on the precipice. If it chooses clinton, I'm going off the grid. It will be so apparent that America has flushed itself, language doesn't even provide an epilogue to this sentence.
Yes, a vote for other than the primary opposition candidate is a vote for clinton. And it fits with what democrats always get some number of people to do. Get disgusted and stay home. Democrat voters don't have that problem. They'd vote for Satan.
But folks everywhere.., do what you like. You are as free as I am.
"Intelligent citizenry?"...The media makes it sound like it's only morons liking Trump...they talk about the huge 'uneducated' sector of his voters as if they all vote for him in the appropriate box and check off "stupid" in the other box. "My fervent hope is that he does a whole bunch of conservative and useful things for America and thereby rewards those willing to take a chance on a non-politician""...we can only hope, Kid.
I'm voting for the guy if I have to, but I'm not going to like it. Not ONE BIT.
Z, Yes of course, the dems pull out All the stops, balls to the wall against their opposition. lies, altered video, insults, try to get opposition voters disgusted and stay home. yes, Trump has helped them on that last bit, but again, this isn't hard for me. I have Never voted for anyone, only against democrats.
How intelligent were we when we picked John McCain in 2008? Geniuses, all of us. Then Mitt in 2012? Every damn one of us qualified for a Rhodes scholarship. And what about Bob Dole? We're all Einsteins, I'm tellin ya true. Those jamokes all lost big, and were all GOP establishment guys.
I'm getting tired of being so damn smart. Let's go for the dumb pick, and see how that works out, what do you say?
Sez you, Ed. The election hasn't been held yet, and you have no idea of the party support Trump will garner. True, those other losers were not able to rally the troops, you are right about that. But the election is 6 months from now, and you can't assign a fact to something that hasn't happened yet. We both must qualify our statements as speculation, not fact, Ed. My feeling is that he will pull some serious support from you Never Trumpists, and some Democrats and Independents, too. The driving force behind these defections will be the alternative: a completely evil and rotten Hillary Clinton.
You mistake me for a nevertrumpist. I am a trumphastoconvincemeist. I have little reason to believe he's better than Clinton today, and his proclamations on minimum wage, trade wars, tax policy, LGBTQ bathroom use, etc. make it worse every day.
Surely that ALONE should persuade you to vote for him since he happens to be the only candidate who offers her serious opposition.
I made the mistake of voting for H. Ross Perot, because I could not abide George H.W. Bush, even though I'd voted for him in the mistaken assumption he would preserve, protect, defend and enhance Ronald Reagan's legacy.
He did not.
Perot came in and appeared to offer an attractive alternative to G.H.W. Bush. I and every intelligent Republican I knew at the time were taken in by Perot whose TRUE motive was to spoil GHWB's chances because of a PERSONAL GRUDGE between them.
The votes we cast for Perot gave us BJ's in the Oral Office given to a RAPIST president. [I believe Juanita Broaddrick to be wholly credible.]
So PLEASE –– I beg you –– not to consider voting for a Third Party. People like Gary Johnson are among the most dangerous we have in American politics.
As I've already said elsewhere, "Your PET ROCK has a better chance of getting elected than Gary Johnson."
Ed: Free Thinke and I made the same mistake back in 1992. I, too, got irked at 41 and his 'read my lips' crap and voted for Ross. I have regretted it ever since, not that statistically speaking my vote counted, anyway. Civic duty and all, but me and 19 million others botched the call, and wound up with the Clinton Machine that has haunted us ever since.
And statistically speaking, your non-vote for Trump, or your write-in will not affect jack squat, since you are an N of one, out of 160 million of us. But Free Thinke and I are talking to your frame of mind, which is held by way too many others, and they are NOT statistically irrelevant. You and all of your buddies combined can stick the rest of us with the Clintons for yet another 8 years.
What about The Great Wall of Trump? You want that, don't you? How about turning away the invading Moors (muslims), you're for that, aren't you? How about his general tax reform ideas, lowering taxes and reforming the tax code is something valuable to you, right? How about rebuilding the military? That's a good thing, right Ed? And treating our veterans better than they are being treated now, that's only right, eh Ed?
The guy is not ALL rotten. Just kinda rotten. But Hillary is TOTALLY ROTTEN TO THE BONE. There is no other person that will end up in the Oval Office, one of those two. That's it. Forget Gary Johnson, although I like the guy's politics just fine.
Fredd, I was convinced that after mclame and romney the repubs just did not want to be in charge for whatever reason. Ongoing wars, economic situation come to mind.
I'm not so sure.
ReplyDeleteBolsheviks come to mind.
Ed, Well what we be doing ain't be workin. :-) A little revolution is good for the soul. Revolutions have reasons. But who knows.
DeleteThe more I watch and listen to him, the more I like him. Actually, I starting liking him a long time ago, but never told anyone. I wanted to be sure. I ended up voting for him in our primary even though I knew Cruz would win.
ReplyDeleteAdrienne, Cruz was my pick. I have no confidence in Trump, but I have every confidence the beast will complete the American flushing process. Therefore I am a Trump voter. He does say some great things. Immigration, NATO, 2nd Amendment, Taxes, Negotiating with Congress, come to mind recently, and I can ignore the ass things he says because when I balance that against the lies I know I'm getting from lobbyist in the pocket politicians, he still comes up on top.
DeleteMy fervent hope is that he does a whole bunch of conservative and useful things for America and thereby rewards those willing to take a chance on a non-politician, possibly setting the stage for America to reject "politicians" for a long time to come. Yea, a lot to ask for I know. :-)
Well, I want it all and I want it Now !
PS - and Veterans. Damn, they've been SO abused by government Basterds. (spelling yea I know) They're only 1% of the population ! And homos are only 1% of the population. If Veterans got as much press as homos, we'd be getting somewhere. Nothing against homosexuals. No one is going to dictate I hae sex with a man, so I won't do that to them but let's have a little balance please.
DeleteIt is through sheer good luck and good fortune that America has Trump today. No other country has been this lucky to have a non-politician, politically incorrect, honest and patriotic presidential candidate upon whom the special interest groups have no ill-effect whatsoever. He has his own money so he answers only to the public.
DeleteHad Americans been Japanese, and had Japan been going through this immigration debacle and other problems like america is, the election would have been over from the get go. No other candidate could even think about running against Trump. In fact, due to shame and hurting conscience, the opponent would have withdrawn all by himself. Japanese are patriotic.
It is only because of the treacherous traitors that we have within our country, that we are even arguing about whether to vote for Trump or Hillary. To a patriot, who loves his country, and does not want to let America permanently deteriorate, the choice is a no-brainer. It can only be Trump.
Make no mistake - America will never again get a chance like this. This is a critical stage, and we are at crossroads. If Trump does not win, there will be no turning back, we will reach the point of no return. If Trump wins, we will manage to salvage America.
To those who are thinking about "principles and purity" before America by not voting for Trump - Just look yourselves in the mirror, and ask your conscience - Am I doing the right thing? Hopefully, you will get the right answer.
IMP, I don't know what Trump would do. But I have little to go on to believe he would spend this much of his own money, poison his relationship with the media and with hollywood (his reality show(s), and encounter other negative effects which are not immediately apparent, just to 'make more money?' It's just does not ad up.
DeleteI have to give your scenario 100% of the doubt. 100%. Whether I like Donald or Not personally.
Most especially, this country is on the precipice. If it chooses clinton, I'm going off the grid. It will be so apparent that America has flushed itself, language doesn't even provide an epilogue to this sentence.
Yes, a vote for other than the primary opposition candidate is a vote for clinton. And it fits with what democrats always get some number of people to do. Get disgusted and stay home. Democrat voters don't have that problem. They'd vote for Satan.
But folks everywhere.., do what you like. You are as free as I am.
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ReplyDelete"Intelligent citizenry?"...The media makes it sound like it's only morons liking Trump...they talk about the huge 'uneducated' sector of his voters as if they all vote for him in the appropriate box and check off "stupid" in the other box.
ReplyDelete"My fervent hope is that he does a whole bunch of conservative and useful things for America and thereby rewards those willing to take a chance on a non-politician""...we can only hope, Kid.
I'm voting for the guy if I have to, but I'm not going to like it. Not ONE BIT.
Neither gets enough votes, Article 12.
DeleteZ, Yes of course, the dems pull out All the stops, balls to the wall against their opposition. lies, altered video, insults, try to get opposition voters disgusted and stay home. yes, Trump has helped them on that last bit, but again, this isn't hard for me. I have Never voted for anyone, only against democrats.
DeleteEd, could be Article 12.
DeleteHow intelligent were we when we picked John McCain in 2008? Geniuses, all of us. Then Mitt in 2012? Every damn one of us qualified for a Rhodes scholarship. And what about Bob Dole? We're all Einsteins, I'm tellin ya true. Those jamokes all lost big, and were all GOP establishment guys.
ReplyDeleteI'm getting tired of being so damn smart. Let's go for the dumb pick, and see how that works out, what do you say?
Each of your examples lacked a large portion of the party supporting them. So does Trump.
DeleteSez you, Ed. The election hasn't been held yet, and you have no idea of the party support Trump will garner. True, those other losers were not able to rally the troops, you are right about that. But the election is 6 months from now, and you can't assign a fact to something that hasn't happened yet. We both must qualify our statements as speculation, not fact, Ed. My feeling is that he will pull some serious support from you Never Trumpists, and some Democrats and Independents, too. The driving force behind these defections will be the alternative: a completely evil and rotten Hillary Clinton.
DeleteYou mistake me for a nevertrumpist.
DeleteI am a trumphastoconvincemeist.
I have little reason to believe he's better than Clinton today, and his proclamations on minimum wage, trade wars, tax policy, LGBTQ bathroom use, etc. make it worse every day.
Oh c'mon, Ed!
DeleteMr. Trump is NOT H. Rodham Clinton.
Surely that ALONE should persuade you to vote for him since he happens to be the only candidate who offers her serious opposition.
I made the mistake of voting for H. Ross Perot, because I could not abide George H.W. Bush, even though I'd voted for him in the mistaken assumption he would preserve, protect, defend and enhance Ronald Reagan's legacy.
He did not.
Perot came in and appeared to offer an attractive alternative to G.H.W. Bush. I and every intelligent Republican I knew at the time were taken in by Perot whose TRUE motive was to spoil GHWB's chances because of a PERSONAL GRUDGE between them.
The votes we cast for Perot gave us BJ's in the Oral Office given to a RAPIST president. [I believe Juanita Broaddrick to be wholly credible.]
So PLEASE –– I beg you –– not to consider voting for a Third Party. People like Gary Johnson are among the most dangerous we have in American politics.
As I've already said elsewhere, "Your PET ROCK has a better chance of getting elected than Gary Johnson."
Ed: Free Thinke and I made the same mistake back in 1992. I, too, got irked at 41 and his 'read my lips' crap and voted for Ross. I have regretted it ever since, not that statistically speaking my vote counted, anyway. Civic duty and all, but me and 19 million others botched the call, and wound up with the Clinton Machine that has haunted us ever since.
DeleteAnd statistically speaking, your non-vote for Trump, or your write-in will not affect jack squat, since you are an N of one, out of 160 million of us. But Free Thinke and I are talking to your frame of mind, which is held by way too many others, and they are NOT statistically irrelevant. You and all of your buddies combined can stick the rest of us with the Clintons for yet another 8 years.
What about The Great Wall of Trump? You want that, don't you?
How about turning away the invading Moors (muslims), you're for that, aren't you?
How about his general tax reform ideas, lowering taxes and reforming the tax code is something valuable to you, right? How about rebuilding the military? That's a good thing, right Ed? And treating our veterans better than they are being treated now, that's only right, eh Ed?
The guy is not ALL rotten. Just kinda rotten. But Hillary is TOTALLY ROTTEN TO THE BONE. There is no other person that will end up in the Oval Office, one of those two. That's it. Forget Gary Johnson, although I like the guy's politics just fine.
I can't wait for the bumper sticker:
DeleteTrump! He's not Hillary!
Fredd, I was convinced that after mclame and romney the repubs just did not want to be in charge for whatever reason. Ongoing wars, economic situation come to mind.
DeleteED, do what works for you sir. :) All the best.
DeleteEd: that bumper sticker works for me. Or better yet: Vote Trump - he's half as evil as Hillary.
DeleteI would vote for my daughter's turtle, Diego, over Hillary so, yes, Trump has my vote.
ReplyDeleteAt least your turtle wouldn't nominate any liberal judges.
DeleteEd, Have you had any discussions with Diego like I have? You may want to rethink that one. He's a cute as Cube is but he is impressionable...
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